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| Amazing what is consider funny - Submitted: Oct 04, 2008 03:26 AM
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It's that someone can make jokes about another's race and cuture but if someone get offended that person is accused of playing the race card or being too senitive and should relax.
I find the most interesting myself is that I am in the military deployed overseas in defence of the country, I am still called a Nigger.
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 04, 2008 05:56 PM
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Hey my friend.....If anyone called you that ...Then, FROM ME, they can go fuck themselves....That shit wont be tolerated...
This place is for fun and Perversion, and a place for likeminded people to leave all that crap at the door and just have a good time!
Don't sweat it,, there will always be some ignorant assholes around...But here, we are all just PERVS!
JG.
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 04, 2008 07:37 PM
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It's even more funny when blacks call each other nigger but say they have every right to but no one else does. Take a stance and stick with it. If you don't want to be called it...don't use the word yourself.
However, in an entertainment medium, we've all become way too sensitive about all races in general. There's no doubt that I take it too far at times, and while shock value and rude delivery is kind of my style, I usually have no intent to offend.
However, when we're all just having fun, getting along and playing on each other's stereotypes...there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it in my eyes. Life is way too serious and way to depressing to micromanage a little harmless fun among friends (and fans).
Racism is in a person's heart and it's very obvious when someone's just making an inappropriate comment...or is just a fucking hating piece of shit.
Thanks for your comments. They make complete sense and were well written.
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JonnyGmiami
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| I agree 100% - Submitted: Oct 05, 2008 05:57 PM
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I may be wrong, and if so I misunderstood the circumstances, but when I saw my friend Ghostrider hurtin, my first instinct was to get his back.....
I was assuming (always a baad idea) that it was someone in chat, or via an E mail that got out of hand, and directed that to Ghost Personally. ...
It never occurred to me that Ghost could have "possibly" been upset by a comedy bit, and if so, like all the rest of us that were born anything less than " A Wanker", ..he will have get used to accepting his lumps in the name of Perversion and Evil (And its NO secret to any Rude Fan, that Wank will be the 1st one to kick his own ass in the pursuit of clownin, and comedy and it's "ALL GOOD" (Too far is for wimps) Hey I fucked Dee Snider, and do I care?! (I just might do it again one day) probably not!!.....However...
I'm pretty sure we all agree, never censor the Entertainment...Cause Dont Forget... it is "RUDE" !!
I'm the first one to tease (and anyone that's gotten to know me knows full well) But "hating" and picking on any one person, is not what this is all about!
SO FUCK OF ALL YOU BITCHES!!!
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 05, 2008 07:09 PM
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Your first response was cool Jonny. Not too PC or asskissing. LOL And I agree with Ghost in many regards including average everyday life at the office or society and shit. I guess because even though I DO take the references too far at times, I know what's in my heart and how much I actually appreciate diversity...frequently can't stand my own people...LOL....that sometimes I need to remember not every new user knows whats in my heart and may read whatever expression I made as LITERAL when chances are they came by just looking for CLITERAL. LOL
All good. I like constructive criticism even if it gives me pause and makes me edit some of my loose canon quips! 
(Ya enjoying the "Look I have black friends" pics I'm postin'? LOL)
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 05, 2008 08:02 PM
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I gots to get me wonna dose too....LoL!!
Congrats on your Dolphin Win!!
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 05, 2008 09:50 PM
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I not am upset about the bit. I thought it was funny but kind of taken too far. Black, White, or Mexican is a funny game, I don't like it when black people are dropping N-Bombs. I do get kind of angry when Wankus is making racist joke cause that man is down.
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 06, 2008 01:06 PM
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Original Post by Ghostrider15577
I not am upset about the bit. I thought it was funny but kind of taken too far. Black, White, or Mexican is a funny game, I don't like it when black people are dropping N-Bombs. I do get kind of angry when Wankus is making racist joke cause that man is down.
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Dude, totally not being a wise ass, but can you explain what bit or comment exactly you're talking about? I really don't even know what we're exactly debating. I was kinda defending generically.
LMK
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 06, 2008 06:32 PM
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Disregard the last comments, I was drunk as hell. I will put out what I really wanted to say later.
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 06, 2008 08:44 PM
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Well I find this topic very interesting. Considering the area where I live, I see all walks of life, and I deal with it everyday. I have always wondered why blacks call each other the N-word, but when someone else sees it as offensive. Each race has it's "cliques" so to speak, and they all make stupid choices and decisions, but those who know the difference choose to rise above racism and people being ignorant to represent themselves as classy people. I have met a lot of people in my life, and the majority of them I have enjoyed meeting, and I would trade the experiences for anything. Life is too short to be bitter, name call and miss out on the things life has to offer. I choose a girl over my friends and she tried to cahnge me and in a way I let her. I missed talking with all of you here and I am glad to have gotten back in touch, regardless of skin color I like being here because you all see me for the perv I am, and I enjoy the conversations. So to those who lack class and intelligence, they will get what they deserve. And all of us make dumb choices and I have done that, but I tell people in order to get a good laugh and make fun of me...lmao. Just my two cents!
Mike
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JonnyGmiami
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 06, 2008 09:03 PM
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 07, 2008 04:26 PM
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Thanks for your input Mike. Good food for thought.
In reality, we are all human, we are all equal, we are here I believe to work together in harmony and live in peace while helping each other grow and make this planet a better place for our future offspring.
At the same time we DO have differences and we DO have obvious culture stereotypes...some incredibly impressive...some obviously horrible and embarrassing. From a day to day life perspective, it's important that we are aware of those differences and stereotypes and try to find a way to make all of our gaps mold together in harmony.
From an entertainment perspective, it's important that we don't take those obvious life facts too seriously and even lighten some of the harder ones by freely incorporating them into areas of humor that may take the audience away for their own individual day to day life drama, even if just for a moment of laughter.
So long as the performer/writer delivering such content is doing so with no malice in his presentation and the viewer is appreciating the material with tongue in cheek....I actually think it's not only a healthy way to bring worlds together, it's also a necessity.
PS: Be careful also when watching my show or even shows on other mediums when assuming the direction of the show or content witnessed was all the work of that crazy host. In many cases, mostly with my Friday host, Esperanza, SHE chooses much of the material and bits that are presented. I got a very harsh email from a mexican viewer a month or so ago about a bunch of horribly racist videos and comments I made on a particular show that was HEAVY with mexican stereotypes. On that particular show, it was my Mexican CoHo, Esperanza, who chose the majority of the material. As the host of the show, I took the material she submitted and presented it in a way she not only agreed with in pre-show planning, but in fact, she essentially designed.
As the white guy on the show...I got the flack...which is part of the gig I guess, but it's not always what you see when the curtain comes up. My seat of the pants presentation makes it frequently seem like we're outta control, when in fact, in most cases, it really means we're just that good baby cause we took a carefully planned outline of material and churned it into a final product that appeared less structured!
It's a far from easy gig to do nightly and keep it entertaining...but we're doing the best we can, and we really love your support!
Just my two cents from my welfare check!
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 07, 2008 09:16 PM
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Thats my "My Space Momma" (owner) you got your tongue in Pal...So Black off !!
LoL!!!
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 07, 2008 09:29 PM
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Wankus,
You make some very valid points as well. I told some co-workers today, if we can;t make fun of each other and fuck with each other, then we might as well just go home. So I think you are right when we need to choose our battles, we try our best to please everyone on a daily basis, but unfortunately someone is always going to feel slighted or offended.
As far as show content goes, I definitely can relate to the difficulty in planning. It's almost like trying to write the perfect speech to present in front of a group of people and you are trying to appeal to all genres, but inevitably someone isn;t going to be happy.
As a former KSEX viewer and now a new RudeTV viewer, all of the shows I have watched I have never been offended, and most of the time it is a great ending to an otherwise shitty day for me. I appreciate those who take the time to plan shows and do the things that you do.
So thank you and I look forward to future chats
Mike aka MAWTN034
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| It 's amazing with is funny these days - Submitted: Oct 07, 2008 11:09 PM
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Okies, this is my take on this. It's going to be a LONG one...
I remember one episode a couple months ago and Wankus was killing with the racist jokes, this was pre-super-stalking Dream, so I was pissed. I was in the chatroom and I wrote on how upset I was and that I think Wankus went wayyy too far. The chatters were telling me how Wankus went for shock value and whatnot.
As a mulatto/mixed breed/black/white female it's not cool. I heard it all the time. When I was younger I was fair-skinned, with light brown eyes and long hair, middle of my back, I was picked on by the blacks and picked on by the whites. I was "too good" for the blacks and "not good enough" for the whites.
I am by far not racist at all as I have been through it all, I have horror stories out the ass. I will say I am guilty of using the "N" word with some people I hang with on the regular. I know you hear the whole "er" vs "a" a lot. I even agree with it. I think the "ER" said by anyone is fucking wrong no matter WHO says it. I also think that the "a" is "acceptable" (for lack of better word)
For some reason spanish and blacks are allowed to use the "a" and of course we all know that "er" being used by a white person is just soooo not cool at all.
Now, I have said the "A" around people and I remember this one time someone said I had no right to do it since my ancestors was a house "er" and my dad's ancestors was the master.  So again, so much racism. It's a toss up.
Back on topic, so listening to this one episode of Wankus I was done, I remember writing in the chatroom that I was over him because I was offended by what he was saying. I could NOT believe what Wankus was saying. I think maybe a week or so later we had spoken about it briefly.
I do understand that he does this for shock value/tongue-in-cheek and that he isn't a racist bastard. Trust me there are MANY on rude that ARE and they make it known.
How do you know you're a racist? if you can actually count how many black friends you have...well...you know the rest. I think Chris Rock said that in one of his comedic acts.
I'm not sure of what sparked this thread and what was said. I am also not kissing Wankus's ass because he pissed me off when I saw this particular show. I guess because I have and still do endure the smart ass racism comments that my tolerance level is just so damn low.
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