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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 01:22 AM
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We need to get visitor views up in group shows and we are coming to you for suggestions.
Please suggest a way to get group show viewership up and if we use your reason we will credit your account $200 in chips.
The suggestions have to be well thought out and explained in detail with a reason why you think it would get more viewers in group shows.
Please no one liners such as, "MAKE THE FREE"
That could be a possible suggestion with more substance.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 01:44 AM
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mybe u can add 2 hour shows that meant bring up the viewership more
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 02:54 AM
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Hey Brett, I e-mailed in my idea. Was not sure if you wanted them posted here or e-mailed.
I'll go ahead and post it here since everybody else has...
There has been a noticeable decrease in attendance of group shows as of late. Here are my thoughts on what can be done to raise the numbers and traffic. This can be achieved by:
1. Including a larger initial viewing area with Rules overlay
2. Creating a dedicated premium group show area. Limit the shows to 10 a day. Have them on the schedule at least 48 hours ahead of time. These shows have to be high quality (sound, cam, lighting) and approved by someone to be included on the schedule.
3. These shows would always be paid unless they are sponsored. Sponsored shows should carry over into both show areas
4. Requiring ticket sales to view unless you are a Red Mod
5. Having one chat room used for all Premium Shows and as shows empty and fill up, the chat doesn't change. But the voting system would change for each show (similar to rudetv)
6. Allowing normal group show schedule to stay the same but only one Premium show allowed in time slot.
7. Offering shopping sprees as extra incentives for Rude performers to do Premium Shows. $50 as example...new clothes, toys
8. The Premium Shows should be archived and able to be SOLD
9. It is important to limit these shows as far as how many go on schedule initially, to gain interest of Performers and viewers. The other group show area can remain as is (shows to promote profile, content, pvt show teases, etc)
The Premium Show area would be specifically for entertaining Rude members with high quality ADULT XXX content. (not BS shows or out of boredom shows or bitching shows)
The whole idea behind this is to give something similar to Rudetv to Members, with ticket cost and also these Premium Shows would be done by people who are serious and have the high quality equipment. I understand that tech issues arise. But i have seen something similar with other sites whose shows were scheduled shows with countdowns until those shows start, along with decent ticket sales. WHile I have not done shows anywhere but Rude I have promoted a few others and not done too bad with them. The countdown clock seems to work pretty well.
Then when someone leaves the Premium Show area or after show is ended, they get Rudemail that gives them the option to buy archive of group show they just attended automatically.
Marketing the Premium Shows
1.Require each girl who is interested in doing Premium Shows to submit 14 pictures to help market them. Create TGP/free site/banners for them so that this content can be released in webmasters area to be linked back to group show areas
2.Group show area has countdown til next premium show on the schedule up top and a link to buy ticket to the Premium Shows.
3.Update banners, peel ads, and pop up ads with countdown timers and new group show format.
If the intent of this is not to come up with an entirely new system but just get traffic, then new banners and TGPs,new peel ads and pop up ads would work well. I would love a countdown banner to upcoming shows on the group schedule. One other idea is to maybe allow the new traffic to view the show for five minutes then be kicked to that performers sign up for VIP. (This way maybe more incentive to get the VIP sign up bonus in shows)
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 03:45 AM
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Maybe it would be a good idea to have a Raffle for every "paid" groupshow.
Letīs say XY does a Striptease show with toyplay. Nude show = Non-VIPs/producers have to buy a ticket. It might help if the producer who hosts the show could set a number while setting up the show, on how many free tickets he/she wants to give out for the show. Letīs say XY sets up their show and sets the free ticket raffle number to 7, then 7 random members whoīd have to buy a ticket to the show get a free pass whilst entering.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 10:16 AM
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The only way I see to get more viewers in group shows is to make all shows free,as I have seen more watching the free nude shows than the paid shows.Most men want it all for free lol.As hubby says "why buy the cow when u can get the milk for free"
Also the fact of why we get more producers & guys thru the embeds is they get in for free except for the monthly website fees they pay.You gotta give to get is what I say.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 12:11 PM
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My suggestion would be is to get well known pornstars to do group shows everyday of the week performing various sex acts that can appeal to everyone. That can probably entice more viewers if they see their favorite pornstar doing a live show instead of watching a video of them.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 12:35 PM
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In recent experience, I have seen a lot of producers that due to the size of their fan base are unable to sort out and look at all the shouts they receive. Some have even said they simply delete them all and look at none and in doing so have missed shows and content postings.
I have seen they have done some changes to the shout area on our pages and was going to suggest maybe if there was a way to filter or categorize the shouts into separate files where one can see live show shout outs and not have them all lumped into common file which is overwhelming to some.
I was thinking of a system maybe with 4 categories: liveshow shouts, flixx shouts, pixx shouts and a general shout category. This sorting may generate more attendance just from people being able to look at a less threatening pile of shouts.  Just my 14 chips worth 
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 12:45 PM
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Original Post by Tweety79
In recent experience, I have seen a lot of producers that due to the size of their fan base are unable to sort out and look at all the shouts they receive. Some have even said they simply delete them all and look at none and in doing so have missed shows and content postings.
I have seen they have done some changes to the shout area on our pages and was going to suggest maybe if there was a way to filter or categorize the shouts into separate files where one can see live show shout outs and not have them all lumped into common file which is overwhelming to some.
I was thinking of a system maybe with 4 categories: liveshow shouts, flixx shouts, pixx shouts and a general shout category. This sorting may generate more attendance just from people being able to look at a less threatening pile of shouts. Just my 14 chips worth
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PS: I have been looking at some others producers pages and seeing some that have never even looked at shouts, leaving 300 to 400 unread chances for viewing or purchases.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 12:47 PM
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My Ideas on the way to get more group show viewers is to promote...
PROMOTE them as much as you do the private shows... maybe on everyone's page as they load-
If you have ads you see the long rails that are spacers to get the ads to locate in the body of the page...
Those rails are a perfect size to add either live group shows embeds in progress or taped highlights of hot shows - which when clicked on - take you to the group shows page...
The only way to get more people into the shows is to give them a photo/Vid of what they are missing...
But - to keep them coming...
Once they are there... give them extra incentive - i know the Rudies are enough... but to give the element of chance by their watching the show they might benefit in a good RUDE Community way...
Have a random choice "lottery winner" (so to speak)
Someone on a group show will get(at however many times during a time period that makes economic sense) -will get lets say - 140 points($10).
These points can't be cashed out like chips can... but they can be used to purchase snaps or customs or rentals...(win/win/win - RUDE pays the Rudies the %, it costs RUDE just that %(which then gets spread to others - ie back to RUDE her Producers, because points can't be cashed out, so they will spur purchases - Embedded members don't get the points(they just get to watch) cuz without logging with your RUDE acct you don't "hold the lottery ticket" to get the prize.
.***(if the "Reward" stays in the point system ie... with points Rudies just buy others RUDE material transferring points rather than chip % - it actually costs RUDE nothing - since Rudies are just bartering points among the community to buy snaps, or rentals etc... makes those empty squares get filled up on pages and again promotes by advertising to others your people of interest... making a bigger snap library etc... all are being promoted by the points system but may lead to purchases with the chip system - the "Lottery" feeds the Community the points to barter with amongst themselves - somewhat better than using Chips which may be cashed out of the system )
****(1 more after thought... if this were a way to Incentivize the group shows and get the points system started then it would only seem right that no discount applies to points(and with the point system started then maybe the whole discount system might be dropped for chips too - as long as we can tip a page in chips and in points) - as they are in effect a closed system of exchange between producers... so everything would be full price... in this case points instead of chips - eventually the points end up in the producers circle... so keeping things full price is good info as to why something isn't selling... at a discount price it might sell and producers might buy it... but if at full price it doesn't sell - that would be a flag to a producer that they might want to check the quality, the lighting, length... something about what they are offering to make it more competitive......ok... on to other thoughts ;-}}} )
That way people know the shows are there, by the increased promos...
More will login under their RUDE accounts - or get them.
They surely will enjoy them - remembering what they were missing -
And, There is a bit of "lottery fever" when someone in the show you were watching wins... maybe you'll be a winner next time too - next time will be your time ;-}
It increases Group show viewing and Logins using your Rude Acct...
"Go to the shows... get Lucky in more than 1 way...
When you win the points - You'll spread the Joy around the Community..."
Win/Win/Win - and very promotable outside of RUDE too ;-}}
Just a few thoughts ;-}}}
****) just looked at the bottom of my page the other day - and thinking from reading below -something was posted on rewarding Performers too... it might be a good time to actually get the awards sections going - World Records or Rude awards for shows - voted on maybe ... declared by judges maybe... maybe both people's choice and RudEmmy's - and put those section like where the music player is easy to see when you load the page - u'll hear the music no matter where the player is located ;-} anyway was just another thought... activate these things that were put on the back burner ;-}
*****) one more wild idea - on th promo Group shows theme... We know RUDETV is off the air for now... and we know there are a good group of what maybe 10-15 or so really serious production minded RUDIES out there that would put on a professional show repeatedly... there may be more than 15 - that just seemed like a likely guess... but why not give them a upgrade to RUDETV... not only a Group show but a RUDETV show a separate website spotlite... an upgrade and honor... get someone at RUDE to be executive producer of their show... figure out some formats and additional things people need to include in there show - or 2 shows - one more hosting RUDE clips etc... one more freestyle or any combination of such that meets the goals required... but we have quality minded people that would love the chance to be a part of RUDETV and what they can make it be... it might be like the community cable channel... but if its directed right... some quality stuff and quality people can do some quality material even on a community cable type format... I think there are at least 15 people that would do a gr8 job if they had the op to revamp RUDETV.... plus it would be a gr8 incentive for better material and planning for Group shows if they had a goal to achieve outside of their own production... some element of growth to strive for... just a thought ;-}
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 02:11 PM
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Ive been thinking about this a lot and reflecting on how it used to be and I have a few points to make
1 - The show board displays current shows up to a point - but if you book an instant show at 11.58 at midnight this disappears from the show board and no one can get in - id love to see them stay like they used to do.
2 - Categories - Sammy has brought this issue up on a thread. Maybe a change to the categorys could be brought in to make it simpler
3 - The people who get the most viewers in their shows are those that are sponsored. In this current climate people dont want to pay - they cant afford to. Free shows would bring in more people. Once in - you can promote your flix pix privates etc as we used to do and thus generate more sales that way.
4 - Full Producers should only be allowed to do Group shows. There are a lot of newbies who think its easy just to throw the cam on and invite people to chat - im bored come entertain me instead of them entertaining us. Producers should make their show a show - entertain us - have a format- these shows work best .
for instance Trinitys game shows drew very large numbers McP shortbus show gets a regular large crowd for a guys show - dont just sit there put on a show and entertain - headless masturbation, bored shows are boring and dont attract anyone.
5- allow shows to run long if possible - sometimes an hour isnt long enough - but at one time we could post a link and people could still come in after the time was up.
6 - As in private area - maybe video capture or picture capture that we can post on our pages to promote shows.
7 - make it compulsory for a teaser to do a show. Teasers do help promote the show and gives people an idea of what can be expected. Profile pics are seen all over the site and dont give any incentive
8 - Get rid of instants - these shows are the ones that dont seem to have any content or format - the successful ones are those that are planned and pre booked. Instants cant pull in the crowds cos people dont know they are on. Pre -scheduled shows draw more cos people can plan to see them and it helps the moderators because we get to see when the shows are on and can get to the button instead of missing all the instant shows that pop up.
Also by getting rid of the instants - when someone gets horny it will increase the house playing which should get more people in to the houses to watch ,-which will help the house owners get more buddies and in the long run, help get more to their shows when they put one on
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 02, 2010 07:41 PM
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This isn't an attempt to join in the contest, since I'll be reitterating what others have already said in addition to a few other comments.
First, promotion and planning - when I first read this post, I went back to the home page and just happened to notice the "Upcoming Group Sex Show". This is the description I saw:
Type: Nudity
Show Title: (Producers name)
Show Details: (Producers name)
Tags: (Producers name)
I didn't list the producers name as a simple courtesy, but it seems to me that if you are trying to attract people to your show, you may want to take the time to at least tell us a little about it. All this tells me is that you probably didn't plan anything more than spending an hour on cam to enter the Booby Prize contest.
Another issue I've noticed is when I do a free show and promote it as such, I have people telling me they couldn't find it because it wasn't listed in the "Free XXX Sex Shows" (Sponsored) section. From what I've been able to gather, about 90% of the people viewing live houses and shows have no chips and no intention of ever buying chips, so they are only looking for anything that says "Free". Perhaps listing shows in another way would bring more traffic to the listings. Since we schedule shows as "Clean No Nudity", "Sexy but No Nudity", or "XXX - Full Nudity", maybe they should be advertised as such instead of only showing those categories under "Type" in the actual show listing.
The idea of free shows with nudity would probably inspire more producers to do shows. I have seen many paid shows with nudity, masturbation, toys, and the rest of the gamut where only 3 or 4 viewers are attending. I know I wouldn't want to put planning and effort into a show that didn't attract any more viewers than that. Perhaps a limited number of free nude shows per producer, maybe once every week or two, would give prospective viewers a glimps of what they might be willing to pay for.
Just my 2 cents. Ignore anything you disagree with. 
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 03, 2010 06:09 AM
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My suggestions for attracting more people live in group shows:
1) Allow voluntary decisions of producer who intends to do the show
receive requests or suggestions during the course of the show, I believe that the
People like to do it every time it makes the very people more involved and more willing to attend the show.
2) You can think of introducing live group shows in the games-contests like strip
poker, spin the bottle or the other where the person enters the room decides
challenge the producer that makes the show.
3) Provide incentives through awards such as chips, or VIP for a few days to persons who during the month they participated in more group live shows (do not compute their own show of course and neither the moderators red)
4) I notice that there are satellite sites that allow you to see free live group show of Rude, it would thus be necessary to ensure that these people
be diverted into Rude and what you can restrict the free access for only a few minutes and Rude diverted to pay the remaining part of the show and possibly by advertising their convenience to be members of Rude.com.
5) Provide for rewards and encouragement to those who live group shows in this way
may increase the number of those who make the show by differentiating the offer with a series of shows that can lead to increase the number of admissions.
In other words most producer groups do live shows = more different groups and levels of live shows there, and this can only be beneficial for people who face a variety of shows has the chance to choose the most satisfying for him or her.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 03, 2010 10:08 PM
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Maybe not so much as getting rid of the instant shows but make a quarter and half hour option. A lot of people will do an instant b/c they don't want to wait for the hour to come up, but it's easier to get to the :15, :30, :45 min marks to do a show.
I do agree, that the link for the show should stay on the board as long as the host is broadcasting. Even if they've stopped the broadcaster (whether on purpose or not) the link should remain active for at least another 5-10 mins to make sure that the host doesn't get locked out if they left the show by accident And others can still come into the show.
A variation on the free ticket raffle could be that anyone putting on a show will have 10 free tickets available to their paid show. The host would not be able to pick who gets these tickets b/c it's 'first come first served'. Also, the 10 who were rewarded with a free ticket wouldn't be eligible for the next, at least, 2 days before they can try to get another free ticket. That way, more people would be able to get the chance to see a paid show for free.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 03, 2010 11:08 PM
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Lots of good ideas so far!
I'd like to be able to give out a one-show free pass, the way we can now give out a 24 hour pass to our Live House. I wouldn't give one out unless the person were on my buddy list. Obviously, same as Live House, only one pass per member. I'd like to think that by providing a free sample to a member, a return visit would at least be considered.
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| Group Show Suggestion Contest! $200 - Submitted: Mar 04, 2010 01:40 PM
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I have one idea:
It seems that the most common complaint is dull, repetitive "I'm bored, let's chat!" sort of shows. I know how easy it is to get creatively fatigued, and, it can be hard coming up with new and enticing ideas. However, I do feel that a solidly themed, active show is what is needed to bring more viewers.
My proposed remedy is this: Rude can begin a promotion with a Theme of the Day for shows. For instance, do "Dance Party Thursdays" or "Swimwear Mondays". As an incentive, performers who participate in the day's theme will be promoted heavily, both on Rude.com, and through a special live webmaster embed, similar to what exists now to promote private
shows.
To save on man power, there should be a radio button where a performer can choose whether they are participating in the theme of the day. Failure to adhere to the theme can be policed through the report buttons used elsewhere on the site.
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